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Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Churchill Downs, Inc. (ticker: CHDN), a gaming company that is uniquely tied to the world of horse racing.



IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:48 - What makes the Kentucky Derby such a cherished event and a masterclass on luxury hospitality
00:05:30 - Why Churchill Downs is so much more than just a gambling company
00:07:54 - What to make of the surge in historical racing machines that are powering the company’s growth
00:17:22 - Why Churchill Downs gave up on mobile-app-based casino gaming
00:34:16 - How the company has used its relationships and lobbying powers to protect its business and even lower its taxes
00:38:18 - The risks and moats of entrenched gambling businesses
00:40:43 - What the future of horse racing looks like
00:45:09 - Why Churchill Downs is such an asset-heavy business
00:57:27 - How to think about modeling CHDN’s intrinsic value
01:01:21 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add CHDN to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio



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Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a deep dive into Mercado Libre, the dominant e-commerce and fintech platform in Latin America. What started as an eBay-like marketplace has evolved into a fully integrated ecosystem spanning online retail, logistics, digital payments, lending, and advertising, with leading positions across Brazil, Mexico, and Argentina.



IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00:00 - Intro

00:10:28 - About Mercado Libre’s founding story

00:12:05 - How it won the e-commerce market

00:14:14 - How and why it built its logistics network

00:38:45 - What competitors are the biggest risk

00:46:51 - What flywheel is powering the business

01:00:50 - Why Mercado Pago is such a powerful business

01:07:59 - About Mercado Libre’s management and capital allocation

01:18:29 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add MELI to the portfolio



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Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Exor NV (ticker: EXO), a unique holding company that has acted as a vehicle for the family wealth of Fiat’s founder, but now poses a compelling arbitrage opportunity, with Exor’s stock trading at nearly a 60% discount to its net asset value.



IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00:00 – Intro

00:04:55 – How Ferrari became Exor’s largest investment

00:06:16 – Whether Exor actually offers discounted exposure to companies like Ferrari, Stellantis, and CNH

00:16:48 – What markets Exor is focusing on most now

00:19:45 – Why Exor trades at such a discount to its NAV

00:42:02 – Why Exor trimmed part of its Ferrari stake

00:45:01 – Why Exor is unlikely to be forced to realize its NAV by outsiders

00:51:03 – Why Exor reclassified itself from an industrial conglomerate to an investment company

01:00:11 – How to think about modeling EXO’s intrinsic value

01:09:24 – Whether Shawn and Daniel add EXO to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio



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Daniel and Shawn take a deep dive into Chapters Group — one of Europe’s most rapidly evolving serial acquirers of mission-critical software and services. They explore where the group’s growth is coming from, how the company allocates capital, and whether Chapters Group’s valuation is justifiable.


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00:00:00 – Intro
00:06:56 – How Chapters Group was founded
00:09:20 – Why elite investors invest in it
00:14:09 – How their playbook for M&A works
00:20:55 – About the major long-term tailwinds behind their businesses
00:35:28 – How M&A is financed
00:46:14 – Why dilution is justified at this stage
00:50:39 – How the financials look
01:05:26 – Whether Shawn and Daniel add CHG to the portfolio



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Joys of Compounding interview with CEO Jan Mohr.

Chapters Group Half-Year Presentation 2025.

TIVP Episode on TransDigm.

Tresor Capital Research Article.

CEO Mohr presenting at the Redeye Serial Acquirer Conference.

William Thorndike’s book: The Outsiders.

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Shawn and Daniel break down Snap Inc., a camera-based social media platform with nearly one billion monthly users.



IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00:00 – Intro

00:08:25 – Why Snapchat, being a founder-led company, is less than ideal in this case

00:09:15 – Why Snapchat is unlikely to be acquired any time soon

00:17:49 – How Snapchat almost didn’t become a hit, and what made it suddenly so popular

00:39:24 – Why growth internationally is actually worsening Snapchat’s unit economics

00:45:12 – What to know about how the company is dipping its toes into artificial intelligence

00:48:01 – Whether subscriptions can save Snapchat’s business model

00:57:55 – Why it has been so much harder for Snapchat to make its unit economics work relative to peers

01:07:08 – How to think about modeling SNAP’s intrinsic value

01:07:29 – Whether Shawn and Daniel add SNAP to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio

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Snap’s investor relations page.

Acquired’s podcast coverage of Snap.

Why Snap CEO Evan Spiegel is betting on smart glasses.

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